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Obama Birth Certificate Part Of A Citizenship Issue That Cannot Go Away

By Lon (Alonzo) Hosford

Challenging a sitting President on eligibility is outside the comfort level of most Americans because we assume that such an item is fully vetted beforehand. However the Obama eligibility under Article II Section 1 of the US Constitution persists. The issue is that Obama was not born in the US and thus is not eligible to be President.  Folks pursuing this issue are called birthers: a label now an official word in the Oxford Dictionary defined as “a conspiracy theorist who challenges President Obama’s U.S. birth certificate.”

Born In Two Places

Citizenship a Key Conservative Issue Starting With Leadership

Oxford Birther Definition Narrow Minded
The Oxford definition is narrow and disappointing. Set aside the technical blunder defining a powerful concept and limiting to one individual makes you think Oxford just wants another entry for the word Obama to generate links and subtle Obama promotion. But I digress with a disdain for the educated smug destroying their own reputations. The Oxford definition escapes the citizen sentiment crossing a wider citizenship issue spectrum. Who is a US citizen and who is not a US citizen is a growing problem. Birthers also question border enforcement, immigration laws, illegal immigration and importantly amnesty. Obama’s situation is likely a poster child for that sentiment.

Are You A Citizen?
It’s getting hard to tell. If you are a producer and perhaps one with productive assets, the highest quality citizen proof is demanded to move ahead. If you are a taker or “too small to tax”, it is easy to slide under radar with minimal quality documentation, forged documentation or none at all. If you only have read about false documentation and believe that is not doable, it is probably you are isolated from real life situations dealing with these folks and only get your information from media. It happens and government fails, as usual, to police it.

Birthers Are Not Satisfied
The birther issue is still strong enough to challenge elected officials in public events. One example was in Washington DC on November 11th 2009 where Republican representative Scott Garrett was questioned about the political stance on the birther issue. As the discussion got rolling you can see audience opening up a suppressed concerned. Consider this was in a day and meeting where HR 3962 was a focus!

Speaking Boldly
Then you have ostentatious presentations by community leaders who are uncomfortable with the perils they see for our Constitution. Consider Dr. James David Manning words in Harlem to his congregation on the birthing issue as a part of overall constitutional issues. You might assume Dr. Manning is more about marketing himself to his congregation, but if you strip out motives and merely consider his words, you find them too difficult to refute and are left with attacking the man.

Democrats and Illegal Immigration
Democrats would love nothing more to provide amnesty to illegal immigrants. They also do not want to make changes on the borders to prevent what has lead to the high illegal levels. So the problem will continue and perhaps legislation will provide an automatic mechanism to circumvent vetting new citizens.
Should Democrats prevail, perhaps the law will contain more relaxed definitions of what proves birth in US and the Obama birther issue may be legislated away creating anecdotal proof for birthers that there is a conspiracy cover up.

Does Obama Birth Documentation Measure Up?
There is Obama birth documentation indicating he was born in more than one place. This is not unexpected today due to the lack of confidence US citizenship proof in general. We come to accept that a person could have inconclusive or contradictory proof and get away with it. The birth certificate documentation you do see on the Internet will never measure up to what millions of Americans say they need for proof. This is a key item that helps make this issue persist. Americans detest unequal treatment. The intensity varies depending on what we see as unequal. It is strongest when it is about something integral to being an American such as citizenship.


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4 Comments

  1. I too have studied this issue of Obama’s ineligibilty. I am tired about the dithering coming from our elected leaders about this. It is without question that Obama is hiding something and in fact has hidden his records from the American people. Keep up the great work at exposing this freak. Give support to Rev. Manning as well.

    rick

  2. Garrett is a good guy and perhaps was getting in touch with his voters in a level of activism not before seen in US history. This article intends to open the door on the ineligibility issue being a symptom of a larger issue with basics of a group called Americans. All groups have memberships. The founders set those membership rules with some flexibility for new members from the outside. Folks at the Garrett meeting only got started because of limited time in the room as DC was not prepared for the onslaught on 11/5/09.

    As to the couch view of blogger R. Matthew Fretz, being with the group and knowing more about them and their backgrounds and their role in the citizens movement is necessary to comment clearly on them. Sitting at a computer and writing about UT videos and bloggers who are on the scene and in the action witnessing events ends with tarnished commentary fraught with diminished credibility.

    Republicans are in trouble because the base is active to a level of investigation unprecedented. They are feverishly looking for alternatives and the “DC mentality” and the “DC culture” does not cut it anymore to the extent many registered are willing to risk challenging them on plain common sense above all else.

    Anyone who holds an office defined under the short 17 page Constitution should be HUMBLED to prove eligibility every day. This is priority ONE or the group starts into disintegration due to lack of trust and confidence in the system and thus why traditionally good Republicans will be challenged on any and all doubts around the membership agreement – the Constitution.

    Also R. Matthew Fretz needs to learn the lesson of argumentation and logic over pristine spelling and grammar. Demeaning bloggers or worse UT commentators about grammar and spelling diminishes the value of your own arguments. Accept all members of the American club who want the membership rules purified and put aside. I suspect if they had photos attached to their comments, a writer such as you would comment on facial attributes as well.

    After all Mr. Fretz many of us gradgeeated the pubic skools so mez grummar and shpelling bees bad. Or should I say the Government run schools. Oh my another informal grammar error in the informal world of blogging and social commenting. Gee I am disqualified to write or speak on what I see and hear. Get real!

  3. Good job – the right video from the right event can have a huge effect.

  4. Judge Land and now judge Carter, smack down the crazies (case dismissed), poor little Birthers.

    Not even “Fake News” Bill O’Reilly believes the crazies, how funny.

    http://belowthebeltway.com/2009/10/29/bill-oreilly-slams-orly-taitz/

    To all the birthers in La, La Land, it is on you to prove to all of us that your assertion is true (TOUGH WHEN YOU KEEP LOSING CASES), if there are people who were there and support your position then show us the video (everyone has a price), either put up or frankly shut-up. I heard Orly Taitz, is selling a tape (I think it’s called “Money, Lies and Video tape”). She is from Orange County, CA, now I know what the mean when they say “behind the Orange Curtain”, when they talk about Orange County, the captial of Conspiracy Theories. You know Obama has a passport, he travel abroad before he was a Senator, but I guess they were in on it.

    In my opinion the Republican Party has been taken over the most extreme religious right (people who love to push their beliefs on others while trying to take away the rights of those they just hate) and that’s who they need to extract from their party if they real want to win. Good Luck, because as they said in WACO, “We Ain’t Coming Out”.

    I heard that she now wants to investigate the “Republican 2009 Summer of Love” list: Assemblyman, Michael D. Duvall (CA), Senator John Ensign (NV), Senator Paul Stanley (TN), Governor Mark Stanford (SC), Board of Ed Chair, and Kristin Maguire AKA Bridget Keeney (SC). She wants to re-establish a family values party.

    I can only hope that Taitz will resist the state collectors that will be coming to collect the $20K.

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